I'll be flying mainly outside the UK for much of the summer now with little or no airspace to worry about so I'll update my instruments when I get back. Possibly a Kobo although interested to see the Vertica 3 when it's available. I think a separate airspace gadget is definitely the way to go.
On 9 Jun 2015, at 16:02, Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:David Flymasters do display the airspace map (But it isn't brilliant). If it beeped at you, you were heading towards it. You were probably zoomed in so much that the boarder was outside the screen area. Try pressing the up/down arrows to zoom in/out. Or possible that the warning distance was too great.--However as Mike has said it is much easier to use a Kobo as it is so much clearer.I have a Live and a Kobo, both give me warnings. I set the Kobo warning distance further away to give advance warning and the flymaster to warn me if I am about to enter.Martin
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Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] XC Soar paragliding airspace file - advice/help?
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 15:16:46 +0100
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Thanks Mike - sounds sensible. I'm already thinking Kobo or Vertiga.On 9 Jun 2015, at 14:42, Mike Humphries <mike.humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:Hi David - I found trying to do everything on one instrument impossible, I use the Flymaster Nav for logging my flight / vario / waypoints / thermal assistant and either a garmin or kobo for airspace, with the right scale the kobo shows me exactly where I am in relation to airspace and gives me plenty of warning without the distraction of alarms and changing pages...cheers...Mike HOn 9 June 2015 at 12:23, David Molden <davidmoldenchen@gmail.com> wrote:Any advice plse?I just started my XC journey and starting to get to grips with airspace. On Monday I flew 25km from Combe to just south of Andover and in the process my Flymaster Nav (with airspace map downloaded from soaring web) beeped telling me I was approaching airspace, and then it switched to the airspace screen which was pretty useless. No map shown, just an arrow. I used the 'Distance to CTR' to tell me if I was flying towards or away from the airspace. Pretty primitive.Any suggestions on use of airspace maps would be totally appreciated.On 9 Jun 2015, at 12:10, francis rich <francis@jfdiuk.com> wrote:FWIW I have found errors in just about every file I ever downloaded. Most have been trivial or not relevant to my flights but demonstrates the human error element in such things.All downloadable files are the product of a person sitting down and translating the original text based official output into some form of mappable file. Some of it is done by text parsers (software) and some "by hand". text parsers are potentially prone to error as is the concentration of any individual (usually amatuer) however well intentioned they may be.My own approach is to use a free download (soaring web), check the coordinates of important areas myself against the official file, and then fly with the electronic map as a reference for locating me on the CAA chart I always fly with.I don't see any other way of complying with the statutory duty on a pilot to know where you are in 3D at all times.Sorry if I am repeating something already stated.On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:31 AM, 'Steve U' via TVHGC members list <tvhgc_members@googlegroups.com> wrote:On 08/06/2015 21:26, David wrote:Steve - I got the link from the SHGC forum, but Steve P didn't list the parameters he selected.
This is the danger of taking any airspace file without knowing the parameters to which it was made.
It will take you less than 5 minutes to generate your own airspace file, from the links I have given you within the caveats given by Lee B and Richard B.
If you don't feel up to this then why would you use a file generated by the same methods but without knowing the parameters used?
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