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28 Şubat 2015 Cumartesi
27 Şubat 2015 Cuma
RE: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
Sorted it by reverting the baud rate down to 9600 nothing all faster baud rates dont work :-(
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Subject: RE: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:41:15 +0000
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Subject: RE: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:41:15 +0000
They haven changed from the previous version that worked!
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:34:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:34:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
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Check your device settings. They should read like this for BlyFly:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:
Yes but I cant get this version to connect the GPS on my GoFly4. It keeps coming up and saying 'No Data RX' then after 10-15 seconds it resets the com ports. Its not the GPS as I reinstalled XCSoar and that connected instantly and LK wont let me go back a version to check as it seems to recognise that the files are older when I use the old install package?
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:40:04 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
From: nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk
To: tvhgc_members@googlegroups.comMartin the new test version seems to be quite nice. Bigger fonts and screen.On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Nik Valiris <nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:thanks Martin for the heads up on the new version - its heating up ;-)For info...the way I installed it:1) is first take a backup image of the SDcard - lots of info out there on doing that. If you have a Mac use dd command in the console.2) In XCsoar Nickle mode I copied the LK8000 directory from my old LK device (or Richards provided his) and pop tit in the root directory of the SDcard. So the folder sits along with the XCsoar folder. So all config and tasks and logs etc will now go in the LK8000 folder.3) Download the LK KoboRoot beta testing file (contains the LK s/w) from the link above or from the developer link on ParaglidingForum and popped that in the hidden directory/folder called .kobo. Same as we did for XCsoar first time. If you want to switch back to XCsoar you put the KoboRoot file for XCsoar back in the .kobo directory and it will install it again. You can download the XCsoar KoboRoot to return it from the XCSoar website.4) Unmount / unplug the USB cable and it should auto restart the Kobo and install the new software and LK8000 will start up.To get access to the folder again via USB to upload tasks, maps etc. you restart the Kobo with the USB cable attached and it will ask if you want to connect it to the computer. You can also do that whilst on the splash screen of XCsoar before you hit FLY.If anyone has the BlueFly Baro/GPS then it needs to be switched to properly work but works very well. You need to change Outputmode to 1 which is for LK8000. I connect to the Kobo using Telnet and changed that parameter on the BlueFly. Details on the BlueFly website on doing that.The command for Kobo Mini is: echo '$BOM 1*'>/dev/ttymxc0On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:There is a new version of LK8000 available that has much improved screen resolution :-) http://goo.gl/iLQ4Zn
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Subject: RE: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:30:21 +0000
MikeIf you want your Kobo to look like Richard's setup you just need to copy the contents of Richards _configuration folder over the top of the contents of the existing Kobo _Configuration folder. If you have your devices set up already I suggest you dont copy the DEFAULT_DEVICE.dvc over as it is hardware specific. Also leave the History.txt.Dont copy the _Language, _Logger or the _Polars folders.As for the contents of the _Maps, _Tasks and _Airspace it doesnt matter. If you haven't already got these populated copy Richards.Martin
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:13:00 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
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thanks ro -so I just put in a card as usual then?On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 at 20:12 Richard Chambers <rchambersuk@gmail.com> wrote:I've created a simplified setup for LK8000 on the Kobo if anyone wants to try it. I have zipped up the entire LK8000 folder from the Kobo so if you replace the folder on your Kobo with my one you will have the exact setup I have. Obviously this will overwrite any setup you may have done. It might not be exactly to your taste but it should be a good starting point with a lot of the crap we don't need disabled.RichardOn Thu, 26 Feb 2015 at 12:34 Nik Valiris <nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:Yes there are some differences with the info boxes ;-) stick with what your happy with I guess.On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:Nik it may share code now, but I asked on the PG Forum about being able to change the font size and split the info boxes so they can be top and bottom or left/right and was told that as LK doesn't do it now there are currently no plans to do it in the porting to Linux which is a shame as it does make it easier to read for us oldies.
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:17:04 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
From: nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk
To: tvhgc_members@googlegroups.comIt should be fairly identical to XCSoar in screen layout as its the same base code, as Richard says the test Kobo version isn't finished yet. Where is differs is in the user input XCS has slightly different ways to interact e.g. zoom... designed to be simpler to use with PGing (one button clicks rather than swipe) especially with frozen hands ;-)That reminds me one other feature LK has is screen lock, which has been missing for XCsoar (unless someone says it's recently been added). Basically LK can lock the screen to avoid options and screens being tampered with by our PG/HG kit during launch. Once airborne it automatically disables the screen lock. I've always missed this on XCS.On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Richard Chambers <rchambersuk@gmail.com> wrote:Landscape is an option in LK8000, it just isn't implemented on Kobo yet. It is worth getting used to it as it actually works for paragliding competitions unlike XCSoar. I used it in the British Open last year as my main instrument (on a Funtrek 130 not a Kobo) and it was flawless.RichardOn Thu, 26 Feb 2015 at 07:53 Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:One advantage that XCSoar does have is the screen display - you can change the size of the fonts and split up the display boxs and use it in landscape. I have just been using LK8000 on the way to work and (for us oldies) it is harder to see the info at the bottom of the page than with XCSoar
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:53:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly deviceIndeed Martin. It's a very early testing (alpha/beta) version, but very promising all the same...On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:MikeLK8000 handles competition tasks better as its optimised for PG/HG but having used XCSoar all last year and just switched to LK I would argue with Richard over which is easiest :-)I am finding it more difficult to learn but I am sure I am will get there in the end (fingers crossed)LK8000 isnt a finished product yet. The version people are trailing is just a pre-release test version of a port of the established Windows version over on to Linux, but it does seem pretty stable. Only time will tell if everything works as it should.Martin
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
From: richard@cloudbase.me.uk
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 19:04:03 +0000
To: tvhgc_members@googlegroups.comMikeUser interface for HG/PG and handling of competition tasks.Richard
Sent from my iPadin words of one syllable can you tell me what the benefits of lk8000 over xcsoar are?On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 at 17:56 Nik Valiris <nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:At the moment only one at a time but putting the koboroot file on, but I can swap on the pc.
Tried lk8000 today on Rybury in the air and seemed to be perfect and no issues.
Nik Valiris
07549 527301On 25 Feb 2015 13:09, "Mike Humphries" <mike.humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:Thanks for the heads up Nick, I have a Kobo which I'm hoping to get familiar with before the season starts, do you think it's possible to install LK8000 in addition to XCskies or do I have to choose just one?Cheers...Mike HOn 24 February 2015 at 13:15, Nik Valiris <nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:I'll give it a good test in the air the next time I am out.Hot off the press: For those Kobo /GPS home built devices used by PG/HG pilots out there who liked LK8000 previously on Windows devices, the port of the code by the developers to Linux/Kobo is gathering pace and they have got a working version for the Kobo (albeit still under test at the minute).There will be an official early first release shortly for those wishing to try it. LK8000 has always been geared more toward the PG/HG pilot with many more features in that respect than XCSoar used by sailplane pilots. http://www.lk8000.it/
Those who built Kobo's may have used the common BlueFly vario module and GPS module but there was a little issue with that but the developers worked over the last few nights and that's now working ;-) All the GPS and Barometric integration seems to work nicely.
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RE: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
They haven changed from the previous version that worked!
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:34:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:34:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
From: nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk
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Check your device settings. They should read like this for BlyFly:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:
Yes but I cant get this version to connect the GPS on my GoFly4. It keeps coming up and saying 'No Data RX' then after 10-15 seconds it resets the com ports. Its not the GPS as I reinstalled XCSoar and that connected instantly and LK wont let me go back a version to check as it seems to recognise that the files are older when I use the old install package?
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:40:04 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
From: nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk
To: tvhgc_members@googlegroups.comMartin the new test version seems to be quite nice. Bigger fonts and screen.On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Nik Valiris <nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:thanks Martin for the heads up on the new version - its heating up ;-)For info...the way I installed it:1) is first take a backup image of the SDcard - lots of info out there on doing that. If you have a Mac use dd command in the console.2) In XCsoar Nickle mode I copied the LK8000 directory from my old LK device (or Richards provided his) and pop tit in the root directory of the SDcard. So the folder sits along with the XCsoar folder. So all config and tasks and logs etc will now go in the LK8000 folder.3) Download the LK KoboRoot beta testing file (contains the LK s/w) from the link above or from the developer link on ParaglidingForum and popped that in the hidden directory/folder called .kobo. Same as we did for XCsoar first time. If you want to switch back to XCsoar you put the KoboRoot file for XCsoar back in the .kobo directory and it will install it again. You can download the XCsoar KoboRoot to return it from the XCSoar website.4) Unmount / unplug the USB cable and it should auto restart the Kobo and install the new software and LK8000 will start up.To get access to the folder again via USB to upload tasks, maps etc. you restart the Kobo with the USB cable attached and it will ask if you want to connect it to the computer. You can also do that whilst on the splash screen of XCsoar before you hit FLY.If anyone has the BlueFly Baro/GPS then it needs to be switched to properly work but works very well. You need to change Outputmode to 1 which is for LK8000. I connect to the Kobo using Telnet and changed that parameter on the BlueFly. Details on the BlueFly website on doing that.The command for Kobo Mini is: echo '$BOM 1*'>/dev/ttymxc0On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:There is a new version of LK8000 available that has much improved screen resolution :-) http://goo.gl/iLQ4Zn
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Subject: RE: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:30:21 +0000
MikeIf you want your Kobo to look like Richard's setup you just need to copy the contents of Richards _configuration folder over the top of the contents of the existing Kobo _Configuration folder. If you have your devices set up already I suggest you dont copy the DEFAULT_DEVICE.dvc over as it is hardware specific. Also leave the History.txt.Dont copy the _Language, _Logger or the _Polars folders.As for the contents of the _Maps, _Tasks and _Airspace it doesnt matter. If you haven't already got these populated copy Richards.Martin
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:13:00 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
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thanks ro -so I just put in a card as usual then?On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 at 20:12 Richard Chambers <rchambersuk@gmail.com> wrote:I've created a simplified setup for LK8000 on the Kobo if anyone wants to try it. I have zipped up the entire LK8000 folder from the Kobo so if you replace the folder on your Kobo with my one you will have the exact setup I have. Obviously this will overwrite any setup you may have done. It might not be exactly to your taste but it should be a good starting point with a lot of the crap we don't need disabled.RichardOn Thu, 26 Feb 2015 at 12:34 Nik Valiris <nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:Yes there are some differences with the info boxes ;-) stick with what your happy with I guess.On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:Nik it may share code now, but I asked on the PG Forum about being able to change the font size and split the info boxes so they can be top and bottom or left/right and was told that as LK doesn't do it now there are currently no plans to do it in the porting to Linux which is a shame as it does make it easier to read for us oldies.
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:17:04 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
From: nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk
To: tvhgc_members@googlegroups.comIt should be fairly identical to XCSoar in screen layout as its the same base code, as Richard says the test Kobo version isn't finished yet. Where is differs is in the user input XCS has slightly different ways to interact e.g. zoom... designed to be simpler to use with PGing (one button clicks rather than swipe) especially with frozen hands ;-)That reminds me one other feature LK has is screen lock, which has been missing for XCsoar (unless someone says it's recently been added). Basically LK can lock the screen to avoid options and screens being tampered with by our PG/HG kit during launch. Once airborne it automatically disables the screen lock. I've always missed this on XCS.On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Richard Chambers <rchambersuk@gmail.com> wrote:Landscape is an option in LK8000, it just isn't implemented on Kobo yet. It is worth getting used to it as it actually works for paragliding competitions unlike XCSoar. I used it in the British Open last year as my main instrument (on a Funtrek 130 not a Kobo) and it was flawless.RichardOn Thu, 26 Feb 2015 at 07:53 Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:One advantage that XCSoar does have is the screen display - you can change the size of the fonts and split up the display boxs and use it in landscape. I have just been using LK8000 on the way to work and (for us oldies) it is harder to see the info at the bottom of the page than with XCSoar
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:53:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly deviceIndeed Martin. It's a very early testing (alpha/beta) version, but very promising all the same...On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Martin Butcher <m1rt2n@hotmail.com> wrote:MikeLK8000 handles competition tasks better as its optimised for PG/HG but having used XCSoar all last year and just switched to LK I would argue with Richard over which is easiest :-)I am finding it more difficult to learn but I am sure I am will get there in the end (fingers crossed)LK8000 isnt a finished product yet. The version people are trailing is just a pre-release test version of a port of the established Windows version over on to Linux, but it does seem pretty stable. Only time will tell if everything works as it should.Martin
Subject: Re: [TVHGC Members] LK8000 flight computer on a Kobo/BlueFly device
From: richard@cloudbase.me.uk
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 19:04:03 +0000
To: tvhgc_members@googlegroups.comMikeUser interface for HG/PG and handling of competition tasks.Richard
Sent from my iPadin words of one syllable can you tell me what the benefits of lk8000 over xcsoar are?On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 at 17:56 Nik Valiris <nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:At the moment only one at a time but putting the koboroot file on, but I can swap on the pc.
Tried lk8000 today on Rybury in the air and seemed to be perfect and no issues.
Nik Valiris
07549 527301On 25 Feb 2015 13:09, "Mike Humphries" <mike.humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:Thanks for the heads up Nick, I have a Kobo which I'm hoping to get familiar with before the season starts, do you think it's possible to install LK8000 in addition to XCskies or do I have to choose just one?Cheers...Mike HOn 24 February 2015 at 13:15, Nik Valiris <nik.valiris@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:I'll give it a good test in the air the next time I am out.Hot off the press: For those Kobo /GPS home built devices used by PG/HG pilots out there who liked LK8000 previously on Windows devices, the port of the code by the developers to Linux/Kobo is gathering pace and they have got a working version for the Kobo (albeit still under test at the minute).There will be an official early first release shortly for those wishing to try it. LK8000 has always been geared more toward the PG/HG pilot with many more features in that respect than XCSoar used by sailplane pilots. http://www.lk8000.it/
Those who built Kobo's may have used the common BlueFly vario module and GPS module but there was a little issue with that but the developers worked over the last few nights and that's now working ;-) All the GPS and Barometric integration seems to work nicely.
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