2 Şubat 2016 Salı

Re: [TVHGC Members] Re: Agenda Item 3 Update

Can you two just get a room please? :-)


Seriously, I'm just glad someone reads those green voting slips, can't say I ever have!

On 2 February 2016 at 14:18, francis rich <francis@jfdiuk.com> wrote:
Thanks Steve
I totally agree with your reasoned approach to the problem of the measured and accountable implementation of the power to exclude a member and will support any resolution to that effect.

I am also grateful to you for taking the time to clarify the BHPA structure for me. I think I am not the right person to ask Marc the question that I posed (my wording often alarms and offends without being intended to do so)but, like you I would very much like to know the answer particularly as it would inform the wording of any resolution to control the use of the power. Perhaps best left until after the vote to see what steps may be necessary or desirable.

Francis



On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:15 PM, 'SteveU' via TVHGC members list <tvhgc_members@googlegroups.com> wrote:
On 02/02/2016 12:37, francis rich wrote:

Steve, I disagree with your view that the power is "draconian".

We'll agree to differ.

I am rather alarmed that you think "troublesome members" should be removed from the membership. I worry you would put me in that category and would be glad of a draconian power to see the back of me. Can you define what actions a person would have undertaken that would so classify him? Surely not for expressing opinions on a club forum? Perhaps autistic members would be regarded as troublesome for expressing opinions in a socially inept way? Do, please, clarify.

To clarify:

I have not put you, Francis, in any category. I don't have that right, nor am I that presumptuous.

I regard the power as draconian, and that is a negative adjective for me. I have clarified already that such a power should be carefully controlled with checks and balances. Currently in two situations is it not, and a third situation is proposed to be added to that at the AGM. This is purely a personal opinion. I would never be glad of draconian powers. However, they already exist, and I'm against them.

As I said before, it's my intention to carefully research an alternative proposal, if I don't get tired of association politics. I wouldn't be looking to define actions or anything else, or clarify what constitutes troublesome or bringing the association into disrepute. I'd leave that to Exec. All I'd be looking to do would be to provide the route of appeal or arbitration suggested either here or FB by Andrew Craig.

I don't think Marc is a member of the TVHGC, or reads this mailing list. I'd be interested to read his reply, if he gave one.

Hope this clarifies things.

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